{"id":1034,"date":"2009-05-08T06:03:51","date_gmt":"2009-05-08T14:03:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.andrewlorenzlong.com\/?p=1034"},"modified":"2009-05-08T14:37:37","modified_gmt":"2009-05-08T22:37:37","slug":"with-friends-like-these","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.andrewlorenzlong.com\/?p=1034","title":{"rendered":"With friends like these…"},"content":{"rendered":"

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When this is your argument against something…\u00a0 I’m all for it.\u00a0<\/p>\n

#1 consenting homosexual sexual (or other) activity is not a crime<\/p>\n

#2 bestiality is a crime<\/p>\n

#3 polygamy is a crime<\/p>\n

#4 child molestation is a crime (unless you’re catholic!)<\/p>\n

Logic dictates that homosexual marriage should be legal and the others (marrying animals, children, etc.) should not.\u00a0 Why is Pat more concerned about 40 year old men marrying each other (when they already live together) than 10 year old girls in Saudi Arabia getting married to 40 year old men (which was a much less reported, but true story that came out last week)?\u00a0<\/p>\n

However, this brings up something interesting.\u00a0 While marriage to an animal or a child would obviously be harmful to the child or animal and therefore illegal – what is the reasoning for polygamy being illegal?\u00a0 Divorce and remarriage\u00a0creates “two dads” or “two moms” etc. anyway, so that argument is out (especially since one could assume in a polygamist household the two moms would actually get along and not use the child to get back at one another).\u00a0 As far as I know sexual threesomes aren’t against the law in most states… so (just like homosexuality) isn’t converting that relationship into marriage a logical step?\u00a0 If a man is legally allowed to have two girlfriends who live with him, why can’t they get married?\u00a0 Keep in mind, I’m not saying that to agree with Robertson, I’m saying Robertson actually brings up a new point.\u00a0 And I’m using it to show the futility of marriage in the first place.\u00a0 Logically speaking, any adult should be allowed to marry any other adult, or number of consenting adults.\u00a0 Does that sound silly? Then lets just get rid of this\u00a0whole (legal) “marriage” thing.\u00a0 Why don’t we just take the government out of it, and leave it up to individuals?\u00a0 And I DON’T mean “take the government out” in the way that “yes on 8” folks would interpret it.\u00a0 I mean stop granting licenses to get married.\u00a0 Stop giving incentives to get married.\u00a0 Those incentives would be better spent on education as single mothers already receive plenty of hand-outs – thus offsetting the “we need to support marriage because of the kids” thing.\u00a0\u00a0 If children need married parents why do we help single mothers?\u00a0\u00a0 Of course, conservatives would like to have their cake and eat it too by outlawing abortion and then<\/em><\/strong>taking away hand-outs for single mothers….\u00a0 Does that sound like a contradiction to you?\u00a0 So does “smaller government” and “warrant-less wiretapping”… but I’m deviating from the point…<\/p>\n

Eventually this will be a moot point as I don’t see the institution of marriage lasting more than another hundred or so years since the majority of adult Americans now are classified as “unmarried.”<\/p>\n

Can any of you think of any other example where putting a new name on a preexisting legal relationship makes it illegal?\u00a0 It is like saying it is legal for women to drive cars, but not to get driver’s licenses….\u00a0\u00a0 Or legal for children to practice medicine, but not to get a license.\u00a0 If there was something inherently wrong with homosexuality, and it was so damaging to our society (as all the “yes on 8” campaign ads showed us) it would be illegal.\u00a0 It isn’t.\u00a0<\/p>\n

But, uh-oh!\u00a0 Homosexuality is only legal because of the supreme court <\/a>– and if you ask a christian the courts are evil and can’t\/shouldn’t decide anything, because our founding fathers CLEARLY<\/a> wanted the bible to be the law of the land.<\/p>\n

With the scare tactic and religious reasons removed (they are usually the same thing), the courts across America will soon have to come to the same conclusion that a few already have…\u00a0 The very interesting thing is that now it is the state courts (not the supreme court) that are validating homosexual relationships.\u00a0 In 2003 a few of the conservative justices noted their dissent with the ruling, stating that they thought the matter of homosexuality being illegal should be “a state matter.”\u00a0\u00a0 Well, the states are speaking now Scalia and Thomas….and they don’t agree with you either.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

When this is your argument against something…\u00a0 I’m all for it.\u00a0 #1 consenting homosexual sexual (or other) activity is not a crime #2 bestiality is a crime #3 polygamy is a crime #4 child molestation is a crime (unless you’re catholic!) Logic dictates that homosexual marriage should be legal and the others (marrying animals, children, […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":99,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1034","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.andrewlorenzlong.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1034","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.andrewlorenzlong.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.andrewlorenzlong.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.andrewlorenzlong.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/99"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.andrewlorenzlong.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1034"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/blog.andrewlorenzlong.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1034\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1039,"href":"https:\/\/blog.andrewlorenzlong.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1034\/revisions\/1039"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.andrewlorenzlong.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1034"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.andrewlorenzlong.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1034"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.andrewlorenzlong.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1034"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}