What were those two men doing, mommy?
They were consoling each other, sweetie….
Is that what mormons/prop 8ers tell their children?
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Oh, the video has been removed Andy!
that was fast…
PS – please don’t call me “andy”
Shirley you can’t be serious.
yes, I am
and don’t call me Shirley.
*ahem*
“We” tell our kids that people live and believe differently than us. It’s a patent answer for a lot of things. I mean, we’re Mormon for crying out loud. There are a whole heap of things that people do differently than us. It’s not just singling out homosexuality but many things regarding sex and morality. We teach our kids that it’s best to stay celibate until marriage. Practically the whole world believes differently than that. It is a difference in the way people choose to live.
And . . . What makes you think we are the only religion that believes homosexuality is against the teachings of Christ and God? You don’t address that here, just single out Mormons and prop 8ers. There are people in other states besides CA who believe the same as well. And *gasp* they may not even be religious. Imagine that.
telling kids that someone is different and voting away (newly granted or not) rights are two different things. By the way, murder exists in the real world and is against god’s teachings… should we remove all reference to that in our children’s history books? We’ll say Lincoln was killed by …uh… the flu?
The Mormon church stood up in the crowd and announced their opinion this past November. You singled yourself out, I didn’t single you out. If I spent $190,000 to convince Californians that black people shouldn’t be allowed to vote – am I not a racist because other people who *gasp* aren’t Californians/agnostic/white/whatever also feel that way?
Finding homophobes that aren’t Mormons (or religious) is hardly a defense. “I hit little Johnny because I saw Timmy do it first”
There are certain religions that think it is okay to beat your wife. Well, this “chris brown” character (I never heard of him until last week) beat his girlfriend. If he isn’t religious does that mean it is okay to beat your wife (in general)?
Atheists aren’t allowed to serve in public office in Arkansas. Does that make it right? Even if the “majority” of that state’s citizens believe it is right, does that make it right?
Look up the concept of GroupThink and GroupShift.
By the way – it is a shame that the video doesn’t work – it actually has nothing to do with religion, but the wording that a reporter used to describe a (faked) homosexual act was humorous and it reminded me of those awkward yes on prop 8 commercials featuring kids “scared” of the homos.
PS – I prepared a whole entry on religion this week but didn’t get around to finishing it. I can only imagine how much flame bait that would be for you!
(PPS – this debating about religion is more fun at this point than not for me, so if you’re getting worked up over something I say on here, just save yourself the trouble and ignore it and your world will be a happier place…)
wow, ummm . . . okay. that was not intentioned to be “flame bait” in the slightest. I would have to ask what makes you think I am homophobic?
you know what, perhaps it is wrong to label you (you personally) as a homophobe. I have no evidence that you’re actually scared of gay people.
That’s good. Because my sister is openly gay and part of a lesbian group called SALIR in San Antonio. I love her just as much as any of my other siblings. She knows my religious beliefs and I know her personal beliefs. I don’t agree with how she lives her life just as I don’t agree with my brother living with his girlfriend but not being married. In my eyes, they are both doing things that go against my religious beliefs. But I do not love them any less. (Well, I might like my sister just a little bit more than my brother.)
I understand… but at the same time, that is like a guy saying “it was okay for me to vote to keep schools segregated because – hey! my cousin married a black dude, and I think he’s okay… segregation is just a belief that I have… I’m sure he understands!”
Is your sister really okay with you thinking she’s living in sin constantly? That doesn’t strain the relationship… at all?
Why would it strain the relationship? For example, people think Mormons are silly for many of their “stange” beliefs. I go to parties where other people are drinking, but I don’t drink. Do you think that the people who choose to drink are bothered that I think drinking is against my beliefs? Nope, they don’t care. And they don’t care that I’m there not drinking either. To each his own.
Thus far it has not strained my relationship with my sister. I miss her much and I’m always glad to see her when she is in town.
*strange
If for example, I was a Mormon who didn’t agree with my church’s stance on Prop 8, is that still singling myself out?
no, it wouldn’t. Although it would if you still donated money to the cause…
but we’ve already had this discussion, so I’m not sure what you’re getting at.
In response to:
“The Mormon church stood up in the crowd and announced their opinion this past November. You singled yourself out, I didn’t single you out.”
yes, you agree with the Mormon church and its stance, correct?
I don’t see what the confusion is…
PS – if you don’t stand with your church’s beliefs wholeheartedly… what are you doing still in it?
First off, I would say that there are many aspects to religion. There are so many different beliefs and levels of understanding within any given religion. I could not wholeheartedly say “I agree with everything my church teaches,” because I have not had the chance to study it all. Being part of a religion is accepting its basic principles then building on that foundation. There are areas of metaphysics in advanced doctrinal study that I have not taken the time to ponder and study yet. (there are just many, many areas of study in my religion) I take the time to ponder and study the doctrine I am learning as time goes by. Everything that I have studied thus far, I agree with. If there was an aspect of the religious theory that I did not agree with then surely that would be a problem for me and make me have to choose whether I would still be involved in my faith. Believe me, I don’t follow blindly. Whenever I learn something new I take the time to determine for myself if it is a correct principle. There is no one else involved in that decision but me alone.
The point I was making (and rather poorly I might add) is that lumping all Mormons into an anti-homophobic group is unfair. There were people in our church who didn’t agree with the church’s stance on prop 8 and felt that the church should butt out. When you refer to Mormons, you are including them too.
I just realized I made an error. Anti-homophobic would be against homophobia. It should say “lumping all Mormons into an homophobic group is unfair.”